23 October 2012

Disappointing Records

The records that I mentioned in the last two posts turned out to be somewhat disappointing in terms of information pertinent to the group of us looking.  There apparently was not a list of deportees (of either the men prior to the end of the war, or of the dependents after the end of the war).  Although, I wouldn't mind having a look through them myself at some point.

One thing of interest was a letter referring to the "Lithuanians now in Lithuania who desire to rejoin their families in the United Kingdom".  That would probably include my great-grandfather Kazimiras.  Images of the letter are below:

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18 October 2012

Other Deportations

After writing the last post, I realized that the records description says they of deportations taking place after the revolution of 1917.  So they may not be of the 1100 Lithuanians deported to fight with the Russians.  They may, however, contain the names of the women and children that were deported later on (in 1920).  These people were the dependents of the men who were not allowed to return (what an injustice!), and they likely include my great-grandmother Zose and my great-uncle Kazimiras Jr.  One of the other forum contributors is planning to go check them out at Kew next week.  Can't wait to hear what he finds!

There also appears to be a second batch of documents that may be relevant:
Home Office: Registered Papers, Supplementary. Nationality and Naturalisation. ALIENS (see also Nationality and Naturalisation): Repatriation of Russian political refugees and deportation of undesirable Poles and Russians after the revolution of 1917.
Collection: Records created or inherited by the Home Office, Ministry of Home Security, and related bodies
Date range: 01 January 1919 - 31 December 1931
Reference: HO 144/13340
Subjects: Nationality, Refugees

Deportation

I've been keeping an eye on an online forum of people attempting to track down the 1100 Lithuanians that were deported from Britain to Imperial Russia in 1917 under the Anglo-Russian Military Convention:  http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=168247&pid=1810171.

As I've written before, I believe my great-grandfather Kazimiras Kisielius was one of those deported under the treaty.  Now it seems that the records that say who was sent away might well have been located.  They're held at the British National Archives in Kew.  This is the reference posted by one of the forum contributors:
Reference: HO 144/13339
Description: ALIENS (see also Nationality and Naturalisation): Repatriation of Russian political refugees and deportation of undesirable Poles and Russians after the revolution of 1917
Date: 1917-1918
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Former references: in its original department: 332758/1-121
Legal status: Public Record
Access conditions: Closed Until 2005
Record opening date: 23 September 2005

Copying Process No. of Units Unit Cost Process Cost
PaperMonoA3 317 £1.00 £317.00
It costs a fortune to have them copied, but another forum contributor might go there, where they are (presumably) free to view.  If he doesn't go, I certainly will.